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		<title>By: NerdChic.Net &#187; Dublin in the Daytime</title>
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		<dc:creator>NerdChic.Net &#187; Dublin in the Daytime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] s something I&#8217;ve been planning on doing for ages, so here goes with the sequel to my Whistle-Stop Tour of Europe. 	(Excuse me. Minor diversion while I go tweak the PHP. This template is pretty [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] s something I&#8217;ve been planning on doing for ages, so here goes with the sequel to my Whistle-Stop Tour of Europe. 	(Excuse me. Minor diversion while I go tweak the PHP. This template is pretty [...]</p>
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		<title>By: firebird</title>
		<link>http://blog.nerdchic.net/archives/75/comment-page-1/#comment-382</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2006 06:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that Elwing! I always thought the options open to non-Euro-residents were much different - and only included the &quot;unlimited travel for x days in a month&quot; kind - which I don&#039;t think would be as cost-efficient here, personally.

The Eurrail (Interrail for non-Europeans) stuff does seem to include the &quot;unlimited travel for x consecutive days&quot;, but I can only see 1st Class, unless you&#039;re under 26. Still, good to know it&#039;s there :)

Bari - I think you&#039;re actually eligible for the European variety, interrail - you&#039;ve been living here long enough to be an honorary European :)

Noirin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that Elwing! I always thought the options open to non-Euro-residents were much different &#8211; and only included the &#8220;unlimited travel for x days in a month&#8221; kind &#8211; which I don&#8217;t think would be as cost-efficient here, personally.</p>
<p>The Eurrail (Interrail for non-Europeans) stuff does seem to include the &#8220;unlimited travel for x consecutive days&#8221;, but I can only see 1st Class, unless you&#8217;re under 26. Still, good to know it&#8217;s there <img src='http://blog.nerdchic.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Bari &#8211; I think you&#8217;re actually eligible for the European variety, interrail &#8211; you&#8217;ve been living here long enough to be an honorary European <img src='http://blog.nerdchic.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: elwing</title>
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		<dc:creator>elwing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interrail is very doable for non-Europeans :)  You just have to buy the tickets before you leave North America.  (raileurope.com is where I typically buy mine, but US travel agents have them as well).

I disagree with Norin on Venice - I would consider it a must-see city.  It&#039;s canals are different than Amsterdam&#039;s, and used in a very different way - just don&#039;t pick a hotel that&#039;s in Venice-Mestre!

Rome is also a must see merely for it&#039;s history.  I do have to admit that Italy is not one of my favorite places, and I&#039;d say visit once, never go back! :)  

I&#039;ve only been to England once, and only in London, but I&#039;d love to get out and see Stonehenge and Bath as well as Glastonbury, but those are my tastes.

I really think that what you want to see depends on what you&#039;re interested in.  I loved the &quot;oldness&quot; of Rome, but I could have cared less about all the art museums - I saw the highlights of the Louve in one morning - that should tell you how interetsed in art I am :)  Give me the old buildings :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interrail is very doable for non-Europeans <img src='http://blog.nerdchic.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   You just have to buy the tickets before you leave North America.  (raileurope.com is where I typically buy mine, but US travel agents have them as well).</p>
<p>I disagree with Norin on Venice &#8211; I would consider it a must-see city.  It&#8217;s canals are different than Amsterdam&#8217;s, and used in a very different way &#8211; just don&#8217;t pick a hotel that&#8217;s in Venice-Mestre!</p>
<p>Rome is also a must see merely for it&#8217;s history.  I do have to admit that Italy is not one of my favorite places, and I&#8217;d say visit once, never go back! <img src='http://blog.nerdchic.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve only been to England once, and only in London, but I&#8217;d love to get out and see Stonehenge and Bath as well as Glastonbury, but those are my tastes.</p>
<p>I really think that what you want to see depends on what you&#8217;re interested in.  I loved the &#8220;oldness&#8221; of Rome, but I could have cared less about all the art museums &#8211; I saw the highlights of the Louve in one morning &#8211; that should tell you how interetsed in art I am <img src='http://blog.nerdchic.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Give me the old buildings <img src='http://blog.nerdchic.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: conall</title>
		<link>http://blog.nerdchic.net/archives/75/comment-page-1/#comment-380</link>
		<dc:creator>conall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your virtual stop in Amsterdam sounds eerily familiar to me... ;) I didn&#039;t have time for Anne Frank, but it&#039;s on the list for the next visit... :)


I disagree about Venice though, it&#039;s lovely. It&#039;s also great fun trying to navigate around and getting lost because sometime there isn&#039;t a bridge where you need one to be... :)


Monte-carlo is very interesting to drive through. (although I have only experienced the motorway between Italy and France) since it has the highest no of Ferrari&#039;s per sq mile in the world (yes, even more than the Ferarri factory!!)


And I sympathise about Michelin starred locations, I was dragged to far too many vinyards all over France in my childhood. Yeuck! :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your virtual stop in Amsterdam sounds eerily familiar to me&#8230; <img src='http://blog.nerdchic.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  I didn&#8217;t have time for Anne Frank, but it&#8217;s on the list for the next visit&#8230; <img src='http://blog.nerdchic.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I disagree about Venice though, it&#8217;s lovely. It&#8217;s also great fun trying to navigate around and getting lost because sometime there isn&#8217;t a bridge where you need one to be&#8230; <img src='http://blog.nerdchic.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Monte-carlo is very interesting to drive through. (although I have only experienced the motorway between Italy and France) since it has the highest no of Ferrari&#8217;s per sq mile in the world (yes, even more than the Ferarri factory!!)</p>
<p>And I sympathise about Michelin starred locations, I was dragged to far too many vinyards all over France in my childhood. Yeuck! <img src='http://blog.nerdchic.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Magni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Magni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if you have already spent the 6 months or so that Noirin&#039;s iterany should take you, you could add Norway on the end, then ;-) Besides, going now it would be June/July when you get here, and that&#039;s a nice time of year :-)

I thought about writing what you should see in Norway here, but I think I will make an entry in my own blog in stead :-)

I&#039;ll just add that I am one of the persons who hate Paris - I have been there three times, and it never got better. Especially the centre is horrible - too many people, too much chaos and traffic and generally not much that can&#039;t be seen elsewhere. I&#039;d highly recommend Lyon, though - lots of good food, much more relaxed and very beautiful. If you absolutely HAVE to be in Paris, stay clear of the centre. Ok, do the compulsory tour, I&#039;d recommend boat on Seine, it&#039;s quite nice, then head out of the centre. Parc de Luxembourg is nice and conveniently close when you are completely fed up of the city, and I regret not going to Versaille. It&#039;ll definitely be on my list next time.

I&#039;ll also say that going to the countryside of UK outside season is great. We went to Scotland during the last week of September last week, and albeit raining for a week it was great. But be aware that most attractions close at weekdays (and weekends for the less famous ones) from October to, hm, Easter, I suppose, so check that first. I also visited Ireland during Easter several years ago, and had a terrific stay in Dublin and Galway. The coast in more rugged wheather is GREAT! (And that goes for Norway as well.) Of course, bring a good raincoat (not an umbrella - it will be windy), a warm sweater and good shoes (leather or some fabric that can be sprayed with a waterproof-thingie).

An advantage of going off-season is also that you don&#039;t have to book accomodation in advance, at least if you can stay in bigger places (in smaller places hostels, hotels and B&amp;Bs often - but far from always - close off-season, so check or have a bigger place as backup). A major difference from USA is that public laundries are less common in Europe, and getting laundry done in hotels can be INCREDIBLY expensive (we&#039;re talking 10 euro for a shirt here). Of course it depends on where you are, but e.g. in Scandinavia not even university cities have public laundries, since most students either live in a dorm with a laundry, or have their own washing machine. (I mention this because I have spent way too much time being worried about lack of clean clothes ;-))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if you have already spent the 6 months or so that Noirin&#8217;s iterany should take you, you could add Norway on the end, then <img src='http://blog.nerdchic.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Besides, going now it would be June/July when you get here, and that&#8217;s a nice time of year <img src='http://blog.nerdchic.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I thought about writing what you should see in Norway here, but I think I will make an entry in my own blog in stead <img src='http://blog.nerdchic.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll just add that I am one of the persons who hate Paris &#8211; I have been there three times, and it never got better. Especially the centre is horrible &#8211; too many people, too much chaos and traffic and generally not much that can&#8217;t be seen elsewhere. I&#8217;d highly recommend Lyon, though &#8211; lots of good food, much more relaxed and very beautiful. If you absolutely HAVE to be in Paris, stay clear of the centre. Ok, do the compulsory tour, I&#8217;d recommend boat on Seine, it&#8217;s quite nice, then head out of the centre. Parc de Luxembourg is nice and conveniently close when you are completely fed up of the city, and I regret not going to Versaille. It&#8217;ll definitely be on my list next time.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll also say that going to the countryside of UK outside season is great. We went to Scotland during the last week of September last week, and albeit raining for a week it was great. But be aware that most attractions close at weekdays (and weekends for the less famous ones) from October to, hm, Easter, I suppose, so check that first. I also visited Ireland during Easter several years ago, and had a terrific stay in Dublin and Galway. The coast in more rugged wheather is GREAT! (And that goes for Norway as well.) Of course, bring a good raincoat (not an umbrella &#8211; it will be windy), a warm sweater and good shoes (leather or some fabric that can be sprayed with a waterproof-thingie).</p>
<p>An advantage of going off-season is also that you don&#8217;t have to book accomodation in advance, at least if you can stay in bigger places (in smaller places hostels, hotels and B&amp;Bs often &#8211; but far from always &#8211; close off-season, so check or have a bigger place as backup). A major difference from USA is that public laundries are less common in Europe, and getting laundry done in hotels can be INCREDIBLY expensive (we&#8217;re talking 10 euro for a shirt here). Of course it depends on where you are, but e.g. in Scandinavia not even university cities have public laundries, since most students either live in a dorm with a laundry, or have their own washing machine. (I mention this because I have spent way too much time being worried about lack of clean clothes <img src='http://blog.nerdchic.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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